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Showing posts with label TIPS Treasury Inflation Protected Securities. Show all posts
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Wednesday, August 18, 2010

Siegel and Schwartz Bond Bubble Warning

Jeremy Siegel and Jeremy Schwartz Say Bonds Are In A Bubble

Jeremy Siegel (author of Stocks for the Long Run") was just on CNBC to say bonds are in a bubble and stocks are a better deal.  In an op-ed written at the "Wall Street Journal," Jeremy Siegel and Jeremy Schwartz say that bonds, and in particular Treasury bonds are extremely overpriced, similar to what the tech bubble experienced in the late 1990's.

A similar bubble is expanding today that may have far more serious consequences for investors. It is in bonds, particularly U.S. Treasury bonds. Investors, disenchanted with the stock market, have been pouring money into bond funds, and Treasury bonds have been among their favorites. The Investment Company Institute reports that from January 2008 through June 2010, outflows from equity funds totaled $232 billion while bond funds have seen a massive $559 billion of inflows.

We believe what is happening today is the flip side of what happened in 2000. Just as investors were too enthusiastic then about the growth prospects in the economy, many investors today are far too pessimistic.

The warning is not just for regular bonds but also TIPS.  (See chart of TIPS rates below article)

The rush into bonds has been so strong that last week the yield on 10-year Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS - More Info) fell below 1%, where it remains today. This means that this bond, like its tech counterparts a decade ago, is currently selling at more than 100 times its projected payout.

Shorter-term Treasury bonds are yielding even less. The interest rate on standard noninflation-adjusted Treasury bonds due in four years has fallen to 1%, or 100 times its payout. Inflation-adjusted bonds for the next four years have a negative real yield. This means that the purchasing power of this investment will fall, even if all coupons paid on the bond are reinvested. To boot, investors must pay taxes at the highest marginal tax rate every year on the inflationary increase in the principal on inflation-protected bonds—even though that increase is not received as cash and will not be paid until the bond reaches maturity.

Jeremys Siegel and Schwartz recommend stocks for both income and inflation protection

From our perspective, the safest bet for investors looking for income and inflation protection may not be bonds. Rather, stocks, particularly stocks paying high dividends, may offer investors a more attractive income and inflation protection than bonds over the coming decade.
and

Due to economic growth the dividends from stocks, in contrast with coupons from bonds, historically have increased more than the rate of inflation. The average dividend income from a portfolio of S&P 500 Index stocks grew at a rate of 5% per year since the index's inception in 1957, fully one percentage point ahead of inflation over the period. That growth rate includes the disastrous dividend reductions that occurred in 2009, the worst year for dividend cuts by far since the Great Depression.
What many bond investors fleeing the risk of equities fail to see is the risk of rising rates on bond funds.  The article points out the risk:

If 10-year interest rates, which are now 2.8%, rise to 4% as they did last spring, bondholders will suffer a capital loss more than three times the current yield.

[3 x 2.8% = 8.4%]
What I own: In addition to equities, I am currently long TIPS, TIPS funds VIPSX (charts and quote) and FINPX (chart and quote) and Series-I Bonds (the majority have a 3.0% base rate) in my personal account.    I-Bonds will not lose net asset value if rates surge but new i-bonds currently pay very little above inflation so I have most of my cash in CDs and savings accounts paying over 1.0%.  I personally own no bonds or bond funds not indexed to inflation.   I also own a REIT fund.  REITs pay good income and should do well in a growing economy but they could suffer if we have a double dip recession.

In  both the "core" and "explore" portfolio in  "Kirk Lindstrom's Investment Letter" I sold all bonds not indexed to inflation with the majority of my fixed income (about 30% of the total) in cash and CDs.  For yield and diversification, I have a REIT fund in the "Core Portfolio" in  "Kirk Lindstrom's Investment Letter" that has done well the past two years and should continue to do well if the economy avoids a double dip recession.

For the Future:  I am strongly considering selling my TIPS funds to lock in nice gains and perhaps wait for them to pay a better spread similar to when I bought them.  The individual TIPS I bought pay inflation plus better than 1.0% so I can hold those to maturity and do very well with or without inflation.

More information about



US Treasury Rates at a Glance


Beware of Annuities


Chart showing 5-YR TIPS rate below Zero
 Click to see full size chart



Thursday, December 10, 2009

Nouriel Roubini Gold & Stock Market Outlook

Not only is Nouriel Roubini, called "Dr. Doom" by many, a stock market bear, he is bearish on gold. Gold (Gold quote & Charts) is currently trading at $1123 per ounce.

"I don't believe in gold," Roubini told CNBC. "Gold can go up for only two reasons."

"[the first is] inflation, and we are in a world where there are massive amounts of deflation because of a glut of capacity, and demand is weak, and there's slack in the labor markets with unemployment above 10 percent in all the advanced economies. So there's no inflation, and there's not going to be for the time being.”

Kirk's Comment: The price of Gold is probably predicting the future out to 10 years or more much as the very low PE ratios for banking and home builders in 2006 and early 2007 predicted the financial meltdown years before it happened. Even today, stocks like Verizon and AT&T have very high dividends with low PE ratios which tells me the market expects communication bandwidth to eventually become a commodity. Low PE ratios and high dividends often say more about the long-term future than the present just as the current high price for gold may be telegraphing the future unless we get our spending under control in the US.

In simpler terms, the price of gold is predicting we will need wheelbarrows to pay interest on our national debt if congress and the white house don't change their spending ways quickly.

The second way gold can go higher in this deflationary economy, according to Roubini, is a financial Armageddon. Roubini says we've avoided that risk.

Kirk's Comment: Have we? If US Treasury interest rates eventually soar to attract money to finance our huge debt, we'll have to borrow even more money to repay the debt. With the democrats and Republicans both spending more than we take in as fast as they can, the price of gold may be predicting a different, but very real financial Armageddon.

Roubini said gold can't move up 20% to 30% unless we end up in a world of inflation or another depression.
So all the gold bugs who say gold is going to go to $1,500, $2,000, they're just speaking nonsense."

click for full size image from stockcharts.com

Nouriel Roubini is a professor at the Stern Business School at New York University, chairman of Roubini Global Economics and a weekly columnist for Forbes magazine.

Current Quotes (click for current quote and chart):
My prior updates on Dr. Doom:
Since 12/31/98 "Kirk's Newsletter Explore Portfolio" is UP 157% (a double plus another 57%!!) vs. the S&P500 UP at tiny 7.3% vs. NASDAQ UP at tiny 0.3% (All through 12/10/09)

As of December 10, 2009, "Kirk's Newsletter Explore Portfolio" is up 32.4% YTD vs. DJIA up 18.7% YTD
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Disclaimer: I have no position in Gold but I do have significant personal positions in TIPS, TIPS mutual funds and iBonds plus I hold them in my newsletter portfolios.

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